to everyone looking at these pages you are all demonic and will be judged when jehovahs day is near dont leave it to late you sinners of satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Donna,
Twitch is right....consider comming back. I have found intense emotion, often resistive, occurres right before awareness and acceptance of what is real and true.
More people, here, have empathy with you than you can know.
I will give you a difficult time and then a "shoulder hug." (I never hug women beside my wife chest to chest....to embarressing.....just sharing....)
Take care,
V
to everyone looking at these pages you are all demonic and will be judged when jehovahs day is near dont leave it to late you sinners of satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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John,
We hated Monett as JWs. The place just sucked. My wife called it "Moan-net" beacuse we felt "trapped and hurt."
Then we got booted from the Org. Now, we see what a great little city this is and how many wonderful people reside here. Funny how a taking off shit (oops) mud covered glasses improves one's vision.
Feeling a bit naughty, tonight...Donna really helped (you GO girl, rah!!)
Take care.
If there are any Roman Catholics here, please, add a bead for Donna....
Oh, John, if you get through agian....stop in for a cup of coffee....pm a week before: maybe Donna can join us: now, that would be a riot, I bet!
V
to everyone looking at these pages you are all demonic and will be judged when jehovahs day is near dont leave it to late you sinners of satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Donna,
Thank you for the insighful post. I just started posting, again, after a two or three month "sabatical." It is refreshing to come back to such inspiring and encouraging remarks....thank you, again.
Hey, if you ever get to SW MO, look me up. We can go get a cup of coffee or whatever. If you are a female, we can have a guest with us at all times: Mrs. Williams would work fine.
Looking forward to an interesting meet-up!
Love you, too,
V PS: if you re-consider and keep posting, that would be great, too......
Vernon Williams
Monett, MO
hello all ex-jw's long time lurker first time posting.
obviously my name is not my real name but i don't want to reveal my real name for fear of shunning obviously.
i have really appreciated much of what this site offers in vast amounts of information that is valuable to me.
Greetings....looking forward to your further posts.
Just a side note: this site is hard to get used to: before long you may know a person's favorite color, the number of children they have, the length of thier penis, preference of music, several stories of thier childhood, favorite whiskey, whether the gun they use is full or partial choke, year of auto, the date they had a nipple pierced and......
you still do not know thier name.
Welcome aboard.....
Vernon Williams....my real name
just had a conversation with my mom about 13 million spent on defending and losing court cases by the society.. i argued that they can't argue against the catholics when they themselves are guilty of the same.. she replied she didn't care.
(after sending them $100,000.00 dollars) she stated that the catholic church had spent billions defending them selves and if the jw's had only spent millions .
that the society had spent billions sending a message, and if i didn't like their message then leave her alone and the rest of the group.. i am burning with rage......i was accused of trying to destroy her beliefs, and if i was not in agreement to reject the entire religion........which of course i have already done many moons ago.. r..
Re,
Empathy from Mo.....
Would you become angry with a person in a coma for not being able to understand something you shared with them from the local paper that interested you?
Your mom is, presently, "flatlined."
Hold tough....she might "come out of it" after a bit.
Wishing you patience and endurance,
V
thought this could get interesting discussing experiences.
i for one was trying to reach out for ministerial servant again in the early 90's , had been one before, and was assigned to carry the microphones one meeting.
had an elder call me in the back room and say , " brother flipper, i noticed looking down towards your shoes that you are wearing white socks today.
In Monett, MO we built a new Hall. It was winter: snow, cold. I volunteered to help the folks out of their cars, along the sidewalk, and into the Hall. The sidewalk was not covered. I bought a brand new pair of Carhart insulated coveralls as I was volunteering to stand out in a windswept car port in single digit weather for a half hour.
The next meeting, I was counsled by the Elders that several were "stumbled" that I was not in a dress coat and slacks.
I should have just walked out of the Hall, then, and not looked back....
These people are just insane.....
V
it's been lots of fun.
thanks simon and co. thanks to the many forum members who posted life saving information.
without it, i would still be part of the collective.
WAC,
Best wishes for your Journey, ahead.
What will you be doing professionaly?
And, if you do not mind, where do you live?
V
this photo was taken in 1921. anyone recognize the man in the center with the mustache?.
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VM,
What was/is the reason for your research on this man?
V
anyone have one of the old pink songbooks?.
or know how much they pop up for on ebay?.
I was at work the other day and was trying to think of a "Kingdom Song" to whistle so I could do that when a JW I work with walked through. (Management said I could not talk to him anymore after he stirred a fuss because I mentioned something about the pedaphile mess....)
Anyhow, I COULD NOT THINK OF A ONE!!
Now, sitting here ready for bed and I have ten tunes and the words running through my head.
Gosh, guys....thanks a lot.
It is true, as someone, here, said once:
"Bad association spoil useful habits."
Well, a couple of shots of Jameson over ice and a clove ciggerette would make this a perfect momment, however, I have neither so will just call it a night...
"Cheers" from an empty glass,
V
is this a legit excuse?
is this balanced and fair?
here is the link- http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/appendix_jonesletter.html.
To All,
I made that last post to bring the thread forward...sorry for the extra space.
I wanted to say a few words about Brant.
We have known each other about thirty five years. Brant is older than me by about eight years or there abouts. Of all the Elders I have known, IMHO (in my hillbilly opinion), Brant had the most "influence" compared to the other Elders around him. To what degree that is objectivly true, today, I do not know, however, that was my at the bottom of the "pissing pyramid" take on the topic.
Brant and his wife, Karen, and their family are in the group I call "hero." They committed everything, all of it, to the Society. Yet, when the point came that they had to choose between what is Truthful and what was Agree-able, they chose Truth and had the stuffings beat out of them. You gotta admire that kind of a mind and heart set.
So many of you are of the same cut of cloth. I feel fortunate to be in association with you all....no matter where in this Journey we each are. Be assurred of my fellow feeling and heartfelt empathy.
Wishing all of you the best,
V
